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Computer music question
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unknown
2003-11-04 22:40:11 UTC
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Greetings,

I am very much interested in getting into creating computerized music, but
do no know where to start. I would like some advice on what software
packages are good for a beginner, and perhaps what instrument to use. At the
moment I have a keyboard (not a top of the line but has numerous presets and
samples), with connection ports.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance
John ffitch
2003-11-05 12:38:43 UTC
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NOSPAM> Greetings,
NOSPAM> I am very much interested in getting into creating computerized music, but
NOSPAM> do no know where to start. I would like some advice on what software
NOSPAM> packages are good for a beginner, and perhaps what instrument to use. At the
NOSPAM> moment I have a keyboard (not a top of the line but has numerous presets and
NOSPAM> samples), with connection ports.

NOSPAM> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Well it does rather depend on what you tghink constitutes music! If
you are interested in notes in conventional western scales, and want
to emulate conventional instruments, then I suspect you shoudl be
looking at MIDI (and talking to some one other than me...)

If you are interested in sounds as compositional objects then you
should be looking at things like Csound (*plug: I maintain it) or PD
or MAX. Depends on your platform too. SoundHack for Mac, etc....

NOSPAM> Thanks in advance

You will probably get more useful answers from the MIDI musicisans.

==John ffitch
Raymond Robijns
2003-11-05 20:55:01 UTC
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a.To begin with --> computer with good soundcard like Creative Live! or
Audigy, better ones are Audiophile 2496 or Terratecs 2496.
b.They have Midiports on the soundcard.
c.Keyboard with midi-out.
d.Buy a book MIDI-technics and read it
e.Software free: midiplayer (=sequencer) Jazz++ is freeware (google!)
f.Wave-editing program (don't know if there are free programs) otherwise buy
Magix stuff to begin with (cheap!)
g.experiment, read, experiment, read and ask questions.
h.google around and surf to terms like soundfonts, synthesizers, roland,
edirol, zzsound, sonic implants, steinberg, and try to join a forum

To show you how I work.
I don not have any instrument!!!
I compose music with Mozart Notation program
Output is a Midi-file
That midifile is input to Cubasis 4.0 VST (around $100)
I use several Virtual Studio Instruments (VSTi) a.o. The Grand (emulation of
the Grand Piano) costs $280 more or less.
With Cubasis and The Grand I make a audiofile (wave file)
The wave-file is imported into CoolEditPro (Audition since it belongs to
Adobe). With this wave-editor I make the wave-file better sounding (chorus,
reverb=echo, etc.)
Then it is ready to sit somewhere, waiting for the other pieces to fill up a
CD, with Nero.

Another possibility is: you make your composition on that keyboard.
Midi-out. Together with some samples........ and then I don;'t know because
I am not used to this, dont know nothing about.

I also use Band-in-a-Box for my more easy-listening music.

Some links:

www.mozart.co.uk (notation program)
www.pgmusic.com (band in a box)
www.edirol.com (soundfonts and soundcanvasses)
www.steinberg.net (VST instrument
www.adobe.com (for Adobe Audition)
www.wizoosounds.com
www.bestservice.de
http://www.saunalahti.fi/kru99/About_SynthFont.htm (program for reading
midi, assigning soundfonts to it, etc.)
www.ntonyx.com (pro's soundfonts)
and try to google to 'ohmforce'
and try to learn about soundfonts
and be patient!!!!!! It took me more than a year to get this far.


Good luck

Raymond
--
www.raymondrobijns.nl
Post by John ffitch
NOSPAM> Greetings,
NOSPAM> I am very much interested in getting into creating computerized music, but
NOSPAM> do no know where to start. I would like some advice on what software
NOSPAM> packages are good for a beginner, and perhaps what instrument to use. At the
NOSPAM> moment I have a keyboard (not a top of the line but has numerous presets and
NOSPAM> samples), with connection ports.
NOSPAM> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Well it does rather depend on what you tghink constitutes music! If
you are interested in notes in conventional western scales, and want
to emulate conventional instruments, then I suspect you shoudl be
looking at MIDI (and talking to some one other than me...)
If you are interested in sounds as compositional objects then you
should be looking at things like Csound (*plug: I maintain it) or PD
or MAX. Depends on your platform too. SoundHack for Mac, etc....
NOSPAM> Thanks in advance
You will probably get more useful answers from the MIDI musicisans.
==John ffitch
Note Jam
2003-11-12 07:29:46 UTC
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You really should say what computer, and operating system you have, and if you
want to program the computer to play and or compose the music, or do you just
want to record midi files, and or mp3?

For windows:

Liberty basic is a free download to try as long as you want to check it out.
You can write and save programs with it just like it is, but need to buy the
runtime package if you want to publish your programs, so others can just click
on them and run them. You can get it at www.libertybasic.com

In the program folder is an example program of a toy midi keyboard. Study that
until you understand it, and you probably can start writting your own midi
programs.


Visual studio is also a good set of languages to get and includes visual basic,
visual c++ and quite a few more languages.

If you just want to buy a midi recorder program (sequencer) try the music
stores, or www.musiciansfriend.com, or most software retailers like staples,
office depot,
office supply stores, costco, etc.

Also read the music newsgroup computer.music.midi, someone just posted a web
site you can download a free sequencer program at.

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